Anxiety
Anxious and Numb at the Same Time
By Angela DeGiaimo, LCSW · Therapist for overthinkers, New York State
Activated and flat at the same time. Both at once, somehow.
Most people learn anxiety and depression as opposites. One is too much — too activated, too alert, too in your head. The other is too little — flat, low, hard to move. It makes sense conceptually. It just doesn't describe what a lot of people actually experience.
What a lot of people experience is both. At the same time. And that specific combination — restless and numb, worried and depleted, caring deeply about things and unable to do anything about them — has its own particular misery that neither word quite captures on its own.
What the overlap actually feels like
It doesn't feel like a war between two states. It's more like being stuck.
You're not lying in bed unable to care about anything. You care about plenty. You're still running the overthinking loops, still replaying things, still cataloguing what could go wrong. But the energy that used to fire up in response to those loops — the urgency, the problem-solving, the action — has gone somewhere else. You have the worry without the fuel to do anything about it.
"I still care, I just can't move" is one of the cleaner descriptions I've heard. The anxiety is still there, doing what it does. The depression is the floor it's bouncing off — nothing quite makes contact, nothing quite lands, everything costs more effort than it should.
The restlessness of anxiety and the flatness of depression can also coexist in a way that makes both harder to treat. You're too depleted to do the active coping that anxiety responds to. You're too activated to settle into the stillness that depression sometimes needs. You end up stuck between approaches that both partly apply and neither fully resolves.
How they feed each other
They're not always separate conditions that happen to occur together. Often they're connected at the root.
Anxiety is a sustained activation state — your nervous system on alert, scanning for threats, bracing. That state is metabolically expensive. When it runs long enough without resolution, the nervous system can move into a kind of shutdown: lower energy, lower affect, lower motivation. What looks like depression emerging can sometimes be the nervous system's response to prolonged anxiety — not a separate illness, but an exhaustion.
The spiral can go in the other direction too. Depression's characteristic withdrawal and self-criticism create conditions that amplify anxiety. When you're isolated, you have more time to ruminate. When your self-worth is low, the anxiety's whispers about what other people think carry more weight.
This is part of why treating only one often leaves the other running. Address the anxiety but leave the depressive flatness untouched, and the anxiety finds new material in the stagnation. Address the depression but leave the underlying activation, and the lifted mood runs directly back into the same worried loops.
What doesn't work here
The advice for anxiety tends to assume energy: take a walk, call a friend, redirect your attention, challenge the thought. This is harder to follow when there's also a heavy, leaden quality to everything. You know you should probably move. You just can't make it happen. The gap between knowing and doing is enormous — and then the anxiety picks up on the fact that you couldn't do the thing, and adds that to its evidence file.
The advice for depression tends to assume relative calm: rest, be gentle with yourself, lower the bar. This is harder when the anxiety is still loud. Rest doesn't feel restful when your brain is running. Lowering the bar sounds reasonable until the anxious part of you treats every lowered bar as a failure.
Neither track fits cleanly, and trying to fit yourself into either one can produce a specific kind of discouragement — the feeling that you're failing at recovering, which is its own particular spiral.
What this combination often points toward
If you're in this overlap, the first thing I want to offer is: this is not unusual, and it is not a sign that something is uniquely wrong with you. Anxiety and depression co-occur at very high rates. The presence of one significantly increases the likelihood of the other.
The second thing is: this combination often points toward something worth looking at underneath both of them. Chronic anxiety and depression together — especially when they've been cycling for years — often point toward nervous system patterns that predate both, patterns around safety, self-worth, and how you learned to manage uncertainty. Working at that level tends to be more effective than managing each symptom set independently.
The anxiety and depression therapy page has more on how I approach working with both. If the anxiety piece is more dominant — if the depression is more an exhaustion from the anxiety than its own separate weight — the anxiety therapy page might be a better starting point.
A note on "not depressed enough"
One more thing worth saying: people with this combination often don't identify as depressed because they don't match the cultural image. They're still functioning. Still caring. Still showing up.
But depression doesn't require being unable to move. It can look like everything being harder than it should be, nothing quite bringing the satisfaction it used to, a persistent low-grade flatness underneath the ongoing anxiety and the productivity and the life maintenance.
You don't have to hit a floor to deserve support. If something hurts, it hurts. That's reason enough.
If the depression piece is more visible than the anxiety—if flat, numb, or going-through-the-motions describes it better than worried-and-wound-up—depression doesn't always look like sadness goes into the presentations that often get missed.
— Angela DeGiaimo, LCSW | NY State of Mind Therapy Anxiety and depression therapy · Telehealth across New York State

Angela DeGiaimo, LCSW
Angela is a therapist based in Brooklyn, NY specializing in anxiety, ADHD, people-pleasing, and the patterns that form when you've spent a long time pretending everything is fine. She has ADHD herself, which means she understands the experience from the inside. She works with adults via telehealth across New York State.